Curse

powercozmic · May 31, 2007, 05:27 AM // 05:27

I've been playing DoA quite a lot over the past week and beat mallyx with ele and necro. One thing I've realised is that mesmers in DoA teams are non-existent. Why people ? I believe a mesmer can do as much damage as a good SS necro/SF if not better.

This mesmer build can effectively replace the 2nd Searing flames elementalist in a typical DoA team and can do the same job as good as if not better than an elementalist.

The only requirement for this build to be effective is an SF elementalist and a SS necro ALREADY in the team (which invariably all Good DoA teams will have).

Illusion Magic 16
fast casting 13

Arcane mimicry
Sig of illusions
Meteor Shower
Deep Freeze
Backfire
Empathy
Guilt/shame
Res sig

Usage :
1.Copy SS, Sig of Illusions + SS (on nearest melee mobs)
2.Sig of Illusions + Deep freeze
3.Sig of Illusions + MS
4.Sig of Illusions + Empathy (On nearest melee mobs)
5.Sig of Illusions + Backfire (If a monk/caster is clumped on tank or if the monk is left standing after the first nuke wave)
6.Sig of Illusions + Guilt/Shame (esp on "Ki"/torturewebs/dream riders)

Pros:
-Fast casting at 13 !!
-This can do quite a bit of damage :

SS at 16 curses
Meteor Shower at 16 fire magic
Deep freeze at 16 water magic
Empathy at 16 domination magic
Backfire at 16 domination magic

Cons:
-No emanagement except for guilt/shame. But ofc we have a dedicated BiP in a standard build so this shouldn't be much of a problem.
-No hard res.

I think I'd enjoy playing this build cos I'd do max damage from 4 different lines except illusion magic even though I have it at 16 !
This could easily be the master of all trades but jack at e-management build

Variations:

1. Illusion Magic 16
Fast casting 10
Inspiration Magic 10
-Bring AI instead of Guilt/shame

2. Illusion Magic 16
Fast casting 10
Insipiration magic 10

Arcane mimicry
Sig of illusions
Meteor Shower
Deep Freeze
2 Visages
AI
Res sig

EDIT : Revised build based on feedback Doh ! yes visages are used on tank not mobs

Yeah didn't realize arcane echo gets cancelled by sig of illusions.

Drizdee · May 31, 2007, 09:32 AM // 09:32

Visages are not hexes, theyre enchantments. first off

Drizdee · May 31, 2007, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Anyhow, this build could probably have worked pretty good if done right. But needs atleast a ranger with famine to take advantage of the energy blackouts.

zwei2stein · May 31, 2007, 09:45 AM // 09:45

* Arcane echo doe to mix up with sig of illusions well (either you cast sig 1st and then it ends on echo, or you echo 1st and then it ends prematurely too, try it for yourself), which means that you cant echo shower or mimicred spell. Unless this was fixed, it takes a lot from your build.

* You dont cast visages on mobs, you cast then on teammates. just nitpicking here.

Main problem with sig of illusion builds is downtime. Anytime you want to cast something effectivelly you have to spend 2s for preparation (+ waiting for possible sig of ilu recharge) Also, recharge on mimicry is abysmall for kind of thing you want to achieve with SS.

You cant really replace seccond SF ele, because you wont have SF, you and your E/x buddy will both run on 16 att, but your fascast bonus will be ruined by having to cast ilu sig (not to mention inability to echo or whatever).

Same, yours advantage over SS necro wont be capitalised as you cast even slower than him.

its like this:

Ele: 2xMS + spams searing flames
Necro: 2xSS + other usefull (damaging and helping tanks) skills

You: 1MS+1SS + edenial (hopefully triggering famine...)/snares/whatever

Its is not really that hot if you look at it this way.

Drizdee · May 31, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Could probably do rather good with ranger secoundary, famine, bring pet, just visages.

Shanaeri Rynale · May 31, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

The build I've been usiing in DoA is as follows
Deep Freeze, Auspicious,meteor Shower, Hex eater vortex, Web of distruption, Sig of humility and a res

Auspiscious+Deep freeze has about the same cast time as a single MS meaning the mobs can be frozen in place at the same time as the nukes come. It also makes deep freeze energy free and the additonal recharge time does'nt affect things that much. The Attribute split is'nt too bad as you don't need anything in water for deep freeze as you are after the slow, not the damage.

Also in the event of an aggro spill having a fast cast DF there makes retreat a lot safer and easier.

HeV is superb against titans. Since I'm maxed lightbringer LB gaze makes a nice AoE damage and sig of humity makes taking down 'Ki' a lot easier.

We tried city with 6 mesmers a while back, it took forever but we managed it - phew

powercozmic · May 31, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Thanks for pointing out the mistakes guys

Just realised arcane cancels when you use sig of illusions after it

No dual nukes now. Haven't thought of ranger skills + visages either.

Opens up a lotta possibilities :

Mesmer + SS necro with BR + ele + famine ranger ?

ACreator · May 31, 2007, 11:39 AM // 11:39

u are gonna explain to me how u use 2 elites like SS and Signet to have 16 curses

Utaku · May 31, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

[skill]Arcane mimicry[/skill]

ACreator · May 31, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

so u are saying some1 brings SS.

which leaves u with only 1 nuker...